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Should The U.S. Interfere In Syria?

Tucker Carlson of Fox News raised the question of whether or not an attempt to remove Syrian President Bashar al-Assad with American forces was a good idea.

Partial transcript as follows:

Leaders on both sides of the aisle in congress, in the media, in our intelligence services and in virtually every think tank in Washington have suddenly aligned tonight on a single point of agreement: America must go to war in Syria immediately. Bashar al Assad cannot continue to lead his country. He must be overthrown. Assad is an evil man, they tell us. His latest crime is a chlorine gas attack, carried out by his forces against a rebel-held suburb of Damascus. Assad’s poison gas suffocated children. Pictures of the aftermath are all over the internet. They’re horrifying. Assad is a monster.

That’s the official story. Almost everyone in power claims to believe it. The push to war in Syria has united politicians from both sides. Lindsey Graham and Howard Dean typically agree on very little. Today, they’re both calling for war in Syria. Graham is demanding massive attacks on the Syrian military. Dean is going ever further. On Twitter, he called the president a “wimp” for merely sending thousands of troops and launching tons of bombs. That’s not enough for Howard Dean, who as you may remember once ran for president as the peace candidate. He wants total war.

Television pundits strongly agree. This morning, the foreign policy team on MSNBC explained that it’s far more important for America troops to fight in Syria than to secure our own border:

(Video begins)

ANDREA MITCHELL ON MORNING JOE: There is no question that it is Donald Trump’s challenge. (EDIT) He has to take action. He’s spoke to Macron. What he ought to do is a coordinated action (EDIT) There has to be a comprehensive response

SCARBOROUGH:  As Trump leaves to fight his imaginary border war, he’s leaving the real war where we can making a difference and said he’s turning it over to Assad and Iran and to ISIS (EDIT) This is something that Barack Obama wouldn’t even do if confronted with these set of facts

(Video ends)

This ought to make you nervous. Universal bipartisan agreement on anything is usually the first sign that something unwise is about to happen, if only because there’s nobody left to ask skeptical questions. And we should be skeptical of this, starting with the poison gas attack itself.

All the geniuses tell us that Assad killed those children. But do they really know that? Of course they don’t. They’re making it up. They have no real idea what happened. Actually, both sides in the Syrian civil war posses chemical weapons. How would Assad benefit from using chlorine gas last weekend? He wouldn’t. Assad’s forces have been winning the war. The administration just announced its plan to pull American troops out of Syria. About the only thing Assad could do to reverse this, and hurt himself, would be to use gas against children. He did it anyway, they tell us. He’s that evil.

Please. Keep in mind, this is the same story they told us last April. Remember that? It was almost exactly a year ago. The new administration announced it was no longer seeking to depose Assad from power. The usual war chorus in Washington started yelping. Days later, Assad supposedly used sarin gas against civilians. Video emerged. We bombed a Syrian airbase in response. At the time, this show asked the obvious question: are we sure Assad really did that? Seems weirdly-timed and counterproductive. Shut up, they explained. Of course we’re sure. What an unpatriotic question.

But of course they were lying. Two months ago, the secretary of defense admitted that, actually, we still have no evidence Assad used sarin gas last year. The story was propaganda, designed to manipulate Americans, just like so much of what they say. We’ve seen this movie before. We know how it ends.

But just for the sake of argument, let’s assume they’re not lying this time. Let’s assume Assad just used chlorine gas against kids. He’s perfectly capable of it by the way. Would that be worth starting a new war over? Overthrowing  Assad’s regime would result in chaos. Many thousands would die. We might very likely see genocide of one of the last remaining Christian communities in the Middle East. Some of the dead would be American servicemen. A new war would cost tens of billions dollars, maybe hundreds of billions. Would it make America safer? The region more stable? Let’s see. How did regime change in Iraq and Libya work out?

Doesn’t matter, say our moral leaders on CNN. Atrocities like this can’t be tolerated. OK. But we do tolerate them all they time. There’s a devastating famine killing children Yemen right now, for example. The Saudis are causing it. Should we drop Tomahawks on Riyadh in response? Not until it’s on YouTube apparently. When you conduct foreign policy by viral video, pictures are essential.

In real life, Syria is a highly complicated place. With Assad gone, who would run it? Do we have another strongman to install? Or is our hope that a stable democracy will magically appear in the wake of civil war? And who exactly are these “moderate rebels” you hear so much about, the ones we’re supporting? A lot of them turn out to be Islamist crazies. For instance, the city where the chemical attack just occurred is mostly controlled by the Army of Islam, a radical group that has called for establishing an Islamic state under sharia law in Syria. The group’s founder called for exterminating all Shia Muslims and Alawites from Syria. We’re supposed to wage a new war on their behalf? Why?

In 2013, when the Syrian civil war was still in its early days, one onlooker weighed in on Twitter. Quote, “We should stay the Hell out of Syria. The ‘rebels’ are just as bad as the current regime. What will we get for our lives and billions of dollars? Zero.” In another tweet, he said, quote, “Let the Arab League take care of Syria. Why are these rich Arab countries not paying us for the tremendous cost of such an attack?” And in another, quote, “What will we get for bombing Syria besides more debt and a possible long term conflict?”

Of course you know who wrote that: Donald Trump. He was right. That’s one of the reasons he got elected. Now the same people who brought you a dying American middle class, undefended American borders and endless pointless wars you can’t find on a map are telling the president he’s got to depose Assad for reasons that are both unclear and dishonest.

It may happen. Before it does, Congress ought to consider a new constitutional amendment. Call it the Lindsay Graham amendment. Here’s what it should say: “Congress shall topple no government until it finishes rebuilding the last government it toppled. And furthermore, talk show generals shall be required to personally visit the battlefield of every war they advocate for.”

That’d have an immediate and positive effect. Let’s hope it passes.


  • Leon Barber

    If the strike did not need to be done, we and our allies would never have done it. Pray for peace from the bad guys!

    • David

      Good Boy Leon :)) What a super trusting person you are. Now back to Earth and some “reality” please. What If – the “facts” have been manufactured – as we have ALL witnessed before ? Just simply “What If, Leon ???”

      • Leon Barber

        What if the “facts” have NOT been manufactured???

  • Running Doe Ryder

    No, for it could start another war with Russia

  • Judy

    This is what i said who are the rebels we are defending? they started a war they could not win and now they are running to other countries to be taken care of. The ones coming here are men nd boys f fighting age who should be fighting for their own country i believe if war came to this country most would stand and fight for it. No country needs a Dictator and he is bad and needs to go but do not start something unless you have the backing and guns to win the middle east is a lost cause

  • hdrider

    NO, because we have No strategic interests in Syria, the U.S. does bot gain anything by being there.

  • banditdarwin

    War is hell, but enslavement is worst. America doesn’t walk away from injustice.

    • polmutant

      America has retreated from any sense of rule of law, just consider the representation for the taxation, king George was very kind to the colonies compared to todays rendition from Washington.

  • Joan Laviana

    To even contemplate this country interfere in a situation in Syria and risk the lives of thousands of American soldiers in a war that is not ours. Syria is of no financial, or economical value to us. The action, on the other hand, would provoke a WWW3 with Russia resulting is a complete anihilation

  • Jim Samaras

    The big questions are did this event actually happen and if so who is the real culprit. Could it have been the Jews after hearing Trump say we’re pulling out of Syria? False flag events are nothing new to the war machine as we’ve seen in the past

    • David

      Far more likely to have been the terrorist islamist extremists who are known to have stocks of chemical weaponry ( ignored by Obama of course ) and to have used them several times before. Israels only interest in Syria & Lebanon is to keep Iran out and prevent them from establishing new military bases there.

      • Jim Samaras

        So these Islamist terrorists WANT the US military there? If so they must have a death wish.

        • David

          You are forgetting which side these crackpots are on. They are a part of the faction fighting AGAINST al-Assad ( and currently losing ! ) so have a vested interest in having the USA remove al-Assad for them ! Also remember that al-Assad is the only thing standing between the Christian community in Syria & Lebanon and an immediate genocide by those islamofascist terrorists whose ambitions the USA will serve by eliminating al-Assad.
          We will be very effectively killing our own interests in favour of these heathen murderers.

  • got my licence

    I believe that it was Obama’s Arab spring in a attempt to get a cabal of Muslim countries as a world power that is at fault. Both Libya and Syria were/ are dictatorships but were stable. Obama and Hillary overthrow the gov. in Libya and take the weapons acquired, send them to Syria to supply the rebels, which pissed off Putin which ended up with Obama trying to make up with Putin by selling our uranium. Could it be that Putin was blowing smoke up Hillary’s backside by telling her that they could secure her winning the election and that fact that he either could not or would not come through is why its all Russia’s fault?

    • David

      Makes you wonder. We sure know one single fact – Politicians LIE. The rest is open to conjecture. I had hopes that POTUS Trump would not fall for this BS – like silly Mrs May of the UK.

  • 1josephg1

    I have a hard time believing anything a Democrat wants is good for we the people or for anyone else for that matter. That is except for satisfying their own agenda.

  • Hambone

    No more war! This is exactly what the third establishment wants. Howard Dean called the president a wimp for not going to war, well I call the president a coward for bowing down the turd establishment! No more war, secure the borders, America first!

    • Alice

      No more war. we have seen the effects of wars. war is not a solution,it will bring more serious Problem in the Country and in the world.now the main Thing in USA to bring law and order and bring back the Country to it`s orginal stand in christlan virtues.Some left politicians are interested to lead the president in wrong way and distract the president and the Team.Conzentrate on Problems in own Country and bring the criminals ,traiters and murders before justice.never allow them to escape..Arab spring,arabic countries are keeping quite and not doing anything against Asad`s cruelty.let them solve their problems..Rassia Iran,,China etc. will unite on side of Asad and could lead to World war. they are waiting to Show their tech.power. NO MORE WAR.Let Asad and his God father Putin manage it. It is better not to involve in anothr country`s Problem..I think some criminals are waiting to have 3rd world war

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  • john Illinois

    Our record of results in the countries we have “liberated” is real bad. Korea, Viet Nam. Cambodia, Iraq, Libya, Serbia/Croatia. True, Assad is a bad guy. So was Saddam. Look what we left behind.

  • polmutant

    i thought Trump was elected to preserve America and constitution. did/does Syria supply heroin and drugs to kill America’s youth? no. Does Syria enable foreign invasion of illegal criminals to America? no. Is Syria a welfare sucking institution on American interests and finances? no. it looks like Syria is scape goat in place of engaging the real enemy of USA. Mexico is much more reprehensible and destructive to America than Syria, Iran, and North Korea. what difference is it if Assad gasses, shoots, stabs, hangs, starves his people? they are his people not America’s problem. perhaps the problem is that Assad does not wish to contribute to the destruction of America’s constitution there by making himself and enemy of the state of America. I further wonder why Assad would gas people in area under his control? this in itself makes no sense. but then again neither is there sense in politics.

  • shadowlee

    Send all of our immigrants to Syria and back to Syria. We should not be playing world policeman. Clean out all jails and prisons.

  • Michelle Dyer-long

    THE U.S. NEEDS TO STAY OUT OF sYRIA & CLEAN UP ” OUR OWN BACKYARD FIRST “, BUT AS USUAL ” WE ” THINK WE KNOW BEST & PLUNGE HEAD ON NOT CONSIDERING THE CONSEQUENCES FOR US OR THEM. THE U.S. DOES NOT NEED TO INVOLVE OUR MILITARY IN ANOTHER SENSELESS, POINTLESS WAR, THE U.S. HAS ALREADY DONE THAT BEFORE AT THE COST OF MANY, MANY SOLIDERS LIVES!!!!

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  • Ken

    Cooler heads need to prevail. It is almost assured that it is not Assad doing this. It is the rebels who see it as their last chance to keep the resistance going. No matter which side did it, bombing the places where it is stored or made makes sense and should have been done long ago. Oh, by the way, didn’t Obama, Kerry and their regime tell us that Russia was taking care of this and we could trust Russia???? I can just see Putin LHAO.

  • David

    The West is being conned into a war that has no clear long-term objective, except for “Change”, and absolutely lacks proper scientific evidence that the target of the war, Bashar al-Assad, really was the one who chlorine gassed the citizens of that last stronghold of islamofascist terrorists.
    If we really are to engage in WorldWar III, please let us go to war for a real and genuine set of reasons, and NOT this idiotic piece of patently manufactured propaganda.
    We have followed this insane pathway before, with similar false claims of “Weapons of Mass Destruction” in Iraq. The false claims ( in Tony Blairs’ “Dodgy Dossier” from Britain ) were eventually debunked as completely false ( even one of its science authors from Porton Down was mysteriously “suicided” to protect the following cover-up ) so What Price Theresa Mays’ present theories ???
    Why is the West so determined to ensure the genocide of the last remaining Christian population in the Middle East ? This genocide will be garranteed once Assad is deposed and the islamist extremists given the throne !
    There is NO honesty or honour is this deplorable mess !

  • Pat Enery

    A Christian nation next to Israel is anathema to world Jewry. Especially if that nation is blocking plans for the “appropriation” of stolen Syrian oil. According to their holy book, the Talmud, whatever a Jew steals from a Goy, he may keep. It is their justification for the takeover of the world’s money system through their creators & benefactors, the Rothschilds.

  • Bruce

    If Obama would have held to his red line we wouldn’t have this mess! He was the worst Pres. we ever had! he basically sold us out for a world order or global initiative by tearing down and giving companies to other countries. He apologize for our past treatment of other countries! What a jerk! in short yes we really didn’t have a choice but to go into Syria and bomb were they make the gas used to kill their own people. And yes if we have to do it again then Russia better determine what side they really want to be on?